Despite the tremulous combination of various teams praying for No Org’s downfall in 2021 Proving Grounds spring split and the gruelling month-long duration it demanded weighing the team’s mid-laner Aiden “5fire” Reckamp down, that didn’t stop him from performing exquisitely, for he helps them defeat Cloud9 Academy three games to one in the event’s Grand Finals to be the champions.
Astonishingly and against all the odds, the team whose name was derived by the lack of financial support they faced and the subsequent unity and tenacity they built finished on top.
More than a week since No Org proved to be the best in Proving Grounds, Gamezo reached out to 5fire for a second interview to learn about what went on in the moment he knew he was becoming a champion, his overall reflection on PG, who he thinks deserve to have attention besides hin, and what happens next for the summer.
Below the video is the full written transcript of the interview. Pedro’s questions are written in standard font whereas 5fire’s answers are printed in bold.
Winning Proving Grounds
After you celebrated the victory with your teammates and looked at your phone to scope out all the notifications going off on your respective social media feeds, can you tell me who was the first person you saw that congratulated you?
5fire: Honestly, it’s impossible to tell who was the first. Because we were on such a big stage this year, on the [LCS] Academy stream and on the LCS stream, playing with all these academy organizations, with all of their fanbases backing them as well, there was just a downpour of people coming out and supporting us. I saw loads of tweets spawning once every four or five minutes because everyone was so happy and crazy [for us]. Looking at my teammates’ pages as well and everybody that was supporting them.
Also, because we were on such a big stage, this was the first year that I got personal direct messages. Even throughout the tournament, there were people saying “Oh, you guys are doing so good and we’re rooting for you!” and even after our loss in the upper bracket, people were messaging me “It’s okay, man. We’re still rooting for you! You got this! You can make the comeback!”. So yeah, it’s really hard to tell who was first. It was probably one of the analysts on Twitter who’s always up there tweeting as soon as everything happens, but to me, it doesn’t really matter who was first because there was just so many people being awesome and supportive and it was great.
I saw on your Twitter timeline that you clamoured for the LCS to give your team either a celebratory banner and trophy as a way to receive recognition.
*laughs* Yeah, yeah.
I’d like an update on that end. Is a trophy or a banner really on the way?
Unfortunately, we haven’t had anything yet. I mean, honestly, a lot of people took it as a joke but I was kind of serious because usually the winners of each academy split get a banner, right? I don’t know if they’re always in the LCS Arena or what exactly happens to them, but they get a banner, a trophy, and all this [recognition] stuff.
And while it is difficult because we’re all remote and we’re not in the same place or whatever, I think it still would be a really cool idea to show that Proving Grounds is serious, like, this is what everyone should be striving to win and not just an “Oh, you just won an online tournament here’s some money,” right?
Although I do understand why Riot wouldn’t want to hang a giant No Org banner in their arena my fingers are crossed that maybe if Riot and LCS are back to in-person next year, we’ll see it there.
Going back to the tournament, before meeting C9 Academy in the grand finals, you first had to get there after losing to them in the Upper Bracket Finals. What adjustments did the team make heading into the rematch?
Well, I think we had a lot better idea of what we wanted to do and what they wanted to do. Because before the first match in the Upper Bracket Finals, it was really tough to get scouting on them since they had only played six or seven games total throughout the event and we had played way more than that beforehand.
So we really took our time, we went over all the VODs of those four games from that series and we just thought to ourselves constantly. Even during our Lower Bracket match (versus 100 Thieves Academy), we were thinking like “This could be good against C9” or “Yeah, this was bad against C9 and we don’t’ want to do this.” Just lots of long talks and late nights with the team and coaches thinking about “Okay, they usually do this so maybe this is good; but then if they do this, what can we respond with?”. So really, it was just a joint effort for everybody to adapt and be malleable and ready for that rematch.
Besides the rematch, you were going to lock horns with people you already played before the start of this new amateur circuit. You and some of your teammates even mentioned this fact in post-series interviews throughout the tournament. How important was the familiarity with those aforementioned rivals from C9A in No Org’s preparation?
Yeah, a little bit but you never really know because each team works differently; so even if you know how an individual player likes to play and maybe if they function in that team differently or something like that. But for me, getting to play against Jouhan ”Copy” Pathmanathan again in the mid-lane after playing against him last year was fun.
I was excited to see how much he had improved in his four months at C9 Academy. Unfortunately for him, I still was the one to take home the trophy once again, but he’s improving a lot. He’s a great player. He’s definitely one of the better mids in the academy so I’m happy to see him do well too.
Unfortunate for him but fortunate for you, am I right?
Yes, that’s very true, very true.
Facing adversity during Proving Grounds
Even so, there’s no denying that you guys had to struggle immensely before the conclusion of the Grand Finals since the team had a heavy deficit in kills and gold, what with the latter being a 4,000 gold gap. What was the team comms like while being in the midst of that comeback?
Yeah, so before we were still talking about how we can win, you know? We never want to think about this game is over. Sometimes a game is really over and you have to start thinking about the next game, but in that case, we knew we still had a chance to win. We knew we still had the ability to get in there and find good fights and find good angles. So, you’ll see [in the VOD] we actually were trying to fight to the death a little bit and it doesn’t go so well so I started thinking “Crap. This is probably going to go into a Game 5 but at least we’ll be able to choose blue side” or something like that.
But then, we were still hunting for that one mistake, that one little slip-up and luckily top Omran “V1per” Shouran and Terry “Big” Chuong were able to find it and get that huge combo on the baron pit. And then from that point on, we knew we had a huge chance to win. We knew that we had everything that it took to close out the game because our team fighting had been honed so, so much over the past couple of months of scrims and what not and we knew that we had the composition that would allow us to continue playing the game because that was one of the one things that we adapted on.
In our first series against C9A, a lot of our compositions just got out-scaled and weren’t able to play fights later on into the game, but in Game 4, we had the Viktor, we had the tankier Sett, and we had the Rell, so we’re able to find these huge engages and combos and I was still able to be relevant despite the fact that I was super behind. As soon as that big play happened, I think we knew we were going to win it, right? All of a sudden, all of our gears flipped, everything switched on, we were like “Okay, we can really win it now…what can we do with this baron?” Always thinking forward, forward, forward and never dwelling on what just happened or whatever. And yeah, that’s most of it: always trying to find the best angles and do the best you can with what you got.
Interestingly enough, that predicament was, in a way, similar to Game 2 of the series against Golden Guardians Academy where the team was rutted in a deficit before clawing back to steal the victory and progressing to the next round. Was the adversity you felt at the beginning of the tournament similar to the one you faced against C9A? And how much did the GGA series help your team in overcoming the next big deficit in the Grand Finals?
I mean to a certain extent. It’s similar to every time we were behind in scrims or practice and we were able to come back, right? Knowing that we have the ability to and we have the capability of making these plays, especially when V1per is on his A-game and is able to find those huge combinations, we definitely knew we had the idea for it, we knew had the ability to do it.
I would say that Golden Guardians is a bit different because (unintelligible)…and we were getting out-scaled so we should have lost. But again, trusting our fight angles, trusting Big’s engages, trusting V1per’s engages, and then Ross “Value” Luppino, Andy “AnDa” Hoang, and I doing our best to facilitate the rest of the fight. Definitely, a part of that comes from playing games like that against Golden Guardians Academy.
Who was the toughest team that you faced in Proving Grounds?
So obviously, the second series against C9A. They were definitely tough. There were some teams that we only ever got to practice against, never got to play against that I’m surprised didn’t do so well in the actual event itself like Immortals Academy for example. I think they were the team we had the worst win-rate against in practice? To be fair, we didn’t play very many matches against them but still, like, they seemed like a better C9A to us every time we played them, so we were really nervous if we were going to end up running into them, but luckily that never happened.
And then besides that, I think all the teams we played were at least strong in their own right. None of the teams was pushovers, none of the teams was weak. We always had to do our due diligence and our due prep. I think in almost every series, we had at least one difficult game…We had to think on the fly and they challenged us. We really had to work for it.
Like, I’m thinking Game 2 against GGA, Game 1 versus Barrage.NA, obviously the C9A series that we lost. With respect to all the teams that were there and all the teams that played, but definitely, C9A, Immortals (maybe), and then I guess GGA probably were pretty tough. Golden Guardians, as well, improved so much from when we had first seen them so that was a bit of a shock [when we saw them]. We were like “Oh crap, we might lose in Round 1. We didn’t expect this.” Luckily, we did make that comeback in Game 2.
Throughout the tournament, you guys have been one of the teams that didn’t mind breaking out abnormal drafts for games such as putting you in Aatrox and Renekton, champions that normally reside in the top lane, whereas V1per played Vayne, a usual ADC champion. As a result, you were the second most diverse player in the tournament, using 10 champions for your pool. How integral was this occasional unorthodox drafting for NOR’s victory?
I think it was pretty important. Obviously, the play and execution are the most important parts. Once you’re in the game with what do you do with what you got? But we were lucky that we had a huge period of time before Proving Grounds and when you’re practising on the same patch for weeks and weeks, you have time to prepare these little back pocket picks that you can throw out. So, while the Aatrox might’ve looked weird, I actually played it in practice maybe five or six times into Sylas and we knew it was a good matchup. We knew how to play around it, things like that.
And really, it just makes it hard for the enemy team because they always have to worry, you know? Because if they don’t pick the safest thing—they might think that maybe it has a counter, and they don’t know about it—and then you counter them, they could just lose the game from that on the spot. So definitely, it made it difficult to draft against us. I’m sure they were really annoyed with all these random picks and whatnot. I’m sure some of the teams in practices were like “Why in the heck is this guy picking this? He’ll never pick this on stage.” But I decided to show that I could play pretty much anything, you know?
I played the Aatrox and then I played the Viktor in the same [Grand Finals] series. In the series before I played the Sett and Ryze against 100 Thieves Academy. I’m playing basically every single version of a mid-laner. I played Akali as well, the assassin. I really wanted to prove that I can do it all. I can play everything and fulfil every role that you need as a mid-laner. Also, I didn’t know I was the second most diverse player, so I guess did pretty well in that respect.
As for the 10 champions selected, you were actually behind by your teammate V1per.
So he was also a big component of that [draft style]. He would tell me like “Pick Aatrox, pick Aatrox. If it looks bad for you, I’ll take it I’ll take it,” right? Or “Pick Sylas. If it looks bad, I’ll take it. Don’t worry about it. Don’t worry about it.” So he enabled me in that way, and in a sense, I also enabled him because it allowed him to get a lot of good matchups that he liked. It allowed him to pick the Vayne on the 10th pick because the enemy thinks they’re playing against something else, right? So, really, we were quite the duo there.
Although No Org has proven themselves as the best team in NA’s amateur scene heading into PG, there remained the possibility of the spotlight for a major event being too bright to bear. Going a step further, how did competing in the grand finals of PG fare relative to playing at the same stage but in different events?
Part of it was a little sad because we did have to play online and be remote. I wasn’t able to see my teammates and coaches or any of the fans and anything like that. So that part was slightly disappointing, but the fact that it was this huge spotlight—I think during the matches, I didn’t realize it because I was so focused on winning and wasn’t worried about anything else or checking social media. But then after the fact, it was crazy.
I had so many people that I had no clue who they were and never seen before who were like “Oh, I just saw this thing on LCS” and “Wow, No Org is so good!” and “5fire should be picked up for a team!” I still have people who are messaging me even to this day and almost a full week later who were saying like “I saw you and you did so great and you got a new fan,” and I’m like “I have fans now?” In previous years in amateur, we would never get more than maybe a couple of thousand viewers at most even for the Grand Finals.
Moving forward, even if it’s remote for the coming split, I think if Proving Grounds continues, especially next year if it’s in-person, that’ll be crazy. That’ll be amazing to actually be on-stage with your teammates out there playing. It must also be nice because then everyone can have low ping and all that good stuff. Part of me wanted to go hug my teammates and go out to dinner with them. It’s sad that I couldn’t but I still got to celebrate with some friends and family which is nice. And then the sheer amount of people that were rooting for us and became happy that we won were just amazing.
As the tournament continued, it felt as if each player had their own shining moment that prompted fans to drown you all in praise, from Round 1 to the Grand Finals.
Everybody showed and I made a tweet about this after the event because going into it, you have all the supporters but you also have some of the doubters, right? You had the people who looked at our roster and they say “ V1per is washed up. Why is he here? This guy looked bad in LCS and he’ll never make it back,” and then he basically solo carries that last game of the tournament to an extent and just shows everyone why he’s insane. I mean, he did it the entire split, but he really put his mark on that last game.
A similar thing happened with AnDa. Some people kind of remember him but like a small thought in the back of their heads, but he came out and out jungled all of these hot new junglers in the tournament. People like Shern “Shernfire” Cherng Tai, who has a bunch of competitive experience, and also new people like Shane Kenneth “Kenvi” Espinoza, who everyone is hyping up on the show, but he’s like “Nah, Nah. Don’t worry. I’m still the best jungler here.”
For myself, obviously, it was very liberating as I’d been passed up by a lot of orgs for a lot of the different younger mid-laners for whatever reason. To be able to show up for myself and prove to all of them and be like “Hey look, you missed out on the chance of having the best-unsigned mid-laner in NA on your team.”
And then for Value, this was really his first year of high-level competitive experience. He played collegiate before. He had a small stint in Oceania, but he showed up and, again as well, he beat all the top Academy ADCs. In the final series, he’s playing against Calvin “K1ng” Truong, a player that a lot of people are saying deserves some games in LCS, and he played insanely well. He got a pentakill in the first game, right?
And then finally Big is a very similar story to V1per where a lot of people hear his name and they’re like “It’s that old LCS player with the funny voice but he’s bad now and he hasn’t been good in forever.” And then he just hits insane engages and he’s the MVP of the finals, right? So I’m just super happy for all of them.
And even for our coaches too. Some people said, “The academy coaches are way better so they’ll probably improve a lot more and that’s why No Org isn’t going to make it so far in PG.” Our coaches Zig and Stunt (Derek Shao and William Chen), showed up. They had great drafts. They taught us a lot about the game. They really improved us as well. We weren’t stagnating at all. So yeah, literally everybody came and showed up and that felt really good.
And why wouldn’t have this sort of vengeful demeanour when almost everyone had been discarded by organizations leading to this team’s eventual formation. I guess one could call No Org’s win in Proving Grounds the completion of their redemption arc.
Yeah, everyone had their reasons for being there. Everyone had their reasons for fighting to win. Obviously, just playing to compete is fun in and of itself, but the fact that there’s that little extra spice on top definitely pushed us all to go even harder.
The future of 5fire’s career
Taking an outer look into the final standings, your team was the only amateur side standing amidst a sea of academy teams, with the next amateur team placing in 9th-12th (Barrage.NA). What do you make about this gap displayed between the academy and amateur teams? Also, do you think those amateur teams will improve come to the end of the summer split?
Well, it’s tough to say. Also, I think you overlooked Evil Geniuses Prodigies. I’m pretty sure they did better than 9th-12th (NOTE: 5fire was right in his correction; they were an amateur team that finished 5th-6th) but they were associated with EG. They were a team of amateurs who showed up and did really well. They were actually really interesting. They were a full team towards the end of last year. When everybody else was done playing, they played in small tournaments and got noticed so that was really nice for them.
But I think we’ll have to see. I think amateur will go one of two ways next split most likely. I think the first way is amateur will get a lot stronger and a lot of the good players will consolidate onto the stronger teams like Wildcard Gaming and EGP. Maybe there will be another No Org or SolaFide Esports but who knows. So that’s one option where maybe instead of one or two strong teams, you can have three or four contesting for a Top 8 spot and maybe have a 50/50 split of academy and amateur.
Or, and I think right now it’s moving towards this, unfortunately, is some of the teams are going to dilute where some of the players are going to other random teams and maybe we won’t have another No Org. Maybe us five players will go to five different teams. So then, while you’ll have maybe more amateur teams that can contest against academy teams, I think you might have fewer that are contesting for those top spots. So it remains to be seen exactly what will happen, it’s just what I’ve heard through the grapevine and back channels, but I’m definitely excited. Hopefully, we inspired a bunch of the amateur teams to show them they could do it and win it all as we did. We’ll see exactly what happens but I’m looking forward to it either way.
Besides your team, what was another team or player(s) that impressed you so much that you feel deserves an adequate look by organizations?
Well, I think my answer doesn’t count because he’s on TSM Amateur now but DarkWings from Zoos Gaming. In fact, most of the players from Zoos Gaming I think—they were a team that people looked at and said “Maybe they can qualify but they’re just going to lose,” right? And then they showed up and took a game off C9 Academy and almost knocked them down to the Loser’s Bracket in the second round.
They were the team that gave us the most trouble during the regular amateur season as well, including Barrage.NA. And so, I think a lot of those players from that team really deserve to be looked at because they’re players that teams would classically ignore. They’re not super high elo, they don’t have really big fanbases or anything like that, they weren’t recognizable, but they all showed up and played really well. They contested the second-placed team! So all those players definitely deserve to be looked at.
My go-to choice would’ve been DarkWings, my opposing mid-laner, but he already got picked up by an org, so I’ll just have to cop out and say that team deserves a strong look at by all the LCS organizations.
Moving forward and looking towards the future is the summer split where it will feature a new schedule that Riot introduced during PG. I bring this up because during our first interview we talked about the issues with scheduling as No Org prepared for PG and how it overwhelmed the team as they played games nonstop for months. Seeing as Riot instituted the change after our interview, we can say that your words contributed to its facilitation. What are your thoughts on the upcoming schedule for PG Summer?
I have to be honest; I actually haven’t taken a really strong look at it so I don’t know exactly [what’s going on]. I know that academy is playing a lot more games. I know that in amateur if you qualify early, you can choose whether or not you want to play in the rest of the circuit, which I think overall is probably one of the best situations we can have because these academy teams deserve to play more than nine games in their regular season. And then similarly, if you win the first amateur tournament, you’re probably a really strong team. You probably want to spend a lot of time scrimming and practising against the academy teams.
In the end, I’m just really happy that they listened to the feedback that the community gave and they made the quick adjustments. Maybe they won’t get it perfect this time as well but that’s fine. There are still things to work out. We’ll hopefully have plenty of more seasons of Proving Grounds to make sure everything goes smoothly and I’m just glad that Riot is committed to continually improving and developing the amateur and academy scene.
I guess I should call you ‘Clairvoyantfire’ instead of ‘5fire’ from now on or something like that.
*laughs* We’ll have to look back at this interview in six months and see how much of the stuff I got right.
Compared to the LCS, which held the Mid-Season Showdown in Patch 11.5, PG was played during 11.6. What did you make of the difference of patches used between the region’s top two tiers?
It is a little weird, especially because I’m sure some of the academy teams wanted to scrim the LCS teams and vice-versa so it makes it a little bit difficult. I know that we even had opportunities to scrim some LCS teams, but due to the fact that it was a different patch and higher ping, I think we declined almost all of them. But it didn’t change too much patch-to-patch, luckily. There wasn’t really a lot of insane changes but it definitely made it interesting because it meant that everybody in Proving Grounds had to develop their own tactics, their own style.
They couldn’t just copy whatever LCS was doing and hope that it worked. We had other regions that we could look at, you know? Maybe LPL, LCK, and things like that, but even then, it’s hard to emulate exactly their playstyle, right? So I think it definitely helped people get more into their own zone as opposed to trying to copy what everybody else was doing, which I think made for a more interesting and exciting tournament.
Like, for example, in our first series against C9 Academy, they had this Seraphine-Karma-Kindred comp where they were trying to buff up the Kindred and do all this stuff. Meanwhile, they were playing against us who had Silas, Akali, and Hecarim trying to dive in, right? Just two completely different comps headbutting into each other. Not doing the same old same old, like just two death balls or whatever. So I think it made it more interesting ultimately. I don’t know if Riot will do it in the future, but I think it ended up working out.
What about the difference in time duration? After all, PG lasted for almost a month, which was double that of the MSS. Surely it must’ve felt like a marathon for not just No Org but for the rest of the competition.
For sure, at least for me. After we won our first series, we had to wait a full week to play our next series and at that point, we had been practising on the patch for close to two weeks or something like that. We already had a pretty good idea of what we wanted to do, but at that point, it gets kind of hard to stay focused, you know?
When you’ve been playing basically the same thing over and over—I know our jungler was getting really bored of playing Udyr every single game. We would show up in scrims and we’d be like “Well, we have two options. Either we can play Udyr again even though we already played him 20 to 30 times or we can ban him, but then the draft doesn’t become real anymore. It’s not what would happen on stage.” Our coaches had to juggle with all that.
And definitely for me as a player, I just wanted to play. I wanted to play our next match, I wanted to play our next opponent. I didn’t want to have to wait a full week every single time. So it definitely felt like a little bit drawn out, but I understand why they had to be due to the double-elimination format, which I prefer to single-elimination. Some of the teams were able to make the deep Loser’s Bracket run, especially 100 Thieves Academy.
After losing to Evil Geniuses Academy, they came back and beat them way later in the tournament, so hopefully, Riot keeps that. Even if the tournament has to be this long, drawn-out thing, I think it’s ultimately better for all the teams. Even as a player who wants to play all the time, I understand why it has to go long and honestly it makes it a little more epic. The fact that we played for a full month and came out on top, in the end, is pretty cool,
What is the one play you can cite from PG for pro/academy teams to look at and say “Look, this is who I am and this is how I play. What you see is what you get and you won’t regret choosing me”?
That’s an interesting question. There’s a few that really come to mind. I had some fights that I played really well early on in the tournament. But then, later on, I also had some skirmishes where I was going 1v2, 1v3 and coming out on top. It’s tough exactly to say what I would want to do because do you want to show the big risky outplay or do you just want to show yourself as being the smart control player who wins by being the better player?
But for sure, one of the plays would be in the finals in the game where I was playing Sylas (Game 3)…I was in a rough matchup. I had died in some fights even though we were winning but I was able to go 1v3 and bait the dive along with taking the Alistar ultimate and turn around the huge play to blow open the game for our team.
I think that’s the sort of play that I would love to show to teams where it’s like “Look, here I was behind. I wasn’t doing super hot but I still saw an opportunity and I worked at it. And not only did I see an opportunity but I told my team about it and we worked on it and it blew open the game and it was almost game-winning in and of itself.” Plays like that are just really nice when they work out so I would love to show that to all the teams.
It already comes as no surprise that you’re looking for a team for the forthcoming split evidenced by your tweet not long after winning PG. But on the off-chance that you don’t find a potential suitor, can you tell me what would happen in your case? Will No Org have to run it back for PG Summer 2021?
We’ll see. Right now, we’re in a weird spot because the next split is starting so soon. I know teams are already starting to practice I think next week or the week after so we’re all trying to move as fast as we can. And all of us on No Org wants to play professional, right? That’s our main goal, so right now we’re all seeking out pro opportunities.
If none of us find anything, which that would be a tragedy to win it all and then not go anywhere, then maybe we would run it back. But I also think there’s a good chance that some of our players will just take a break, you know? We already won, we already showed up. We’ll just wait until the offseason to make some bigger moves.
For myself personally, I’m still not 100% sure exactly what I’m going to be doing. I’ve been doing some coaching. I’ve been playing some of these money matches and things like that with Tyler “Tyler1” Steinkamp and Julian “Tarzaned” Farokhian. My future is still a little bit uncertain. I’m still talking to teams, I’m still trying to figure out exactly where I want to go and what I want to do. So, unfortunately, I don’t really have any concrete answers right now, but just know that no matter what, I’ll still be playing. I’ll still be on stream somewhere doing something. So yeah, don’t worry about it too much.
If the opportunity arrives that you leave the NA for, let’s say, EU and you enlist with a team from one of the Regional Leagues, would you be available to take the long flight there?
I actually lived in Europe prior to living in the US. I lived in Switzerland for four years so it wouldn’t actually be that crazy for me. I’m definitely open to all offers right now. If a good European team wants to pick me up and I know I can do well over there and improve and it’s going to be the best for my career, then, of course, I would go for it. It’s all for the love of the game and the love for the competition.
And also, it’s more fun for me and adventurous. I’m not really scared of going to Europe. I would be more excited, I think. So hopefully if any European teams are watching this, hi, I’m 5fire. I’m a pretty good mid-laner if you need somebody just let me know. *laughs* But yeah, I’m definitely open to all offers from pretty much every region at this point. I just want to be on a team, want to be in an org, and be able to be in the arena and play again, whenever that is. Anyone who can give me that opportunity, I’ll give them a look.
Do you have any final words before we end this interview?
Thanks, everyone for the huge support throughout the whole year. It’s not easy being an amateur and having people doubt us and look down on us. To have people try to make excuses and come up with crazy reasons for why we’re not on other teams, everybody that sent me messages or even followed us on Twitter watched my teammates’ streams, and everything like that, we notice all of it. We love and respect all of it.
Continue to support not only us but the rest of your favourite amateur players and even your favourite academy players too. While amateur won this time, the academy players deserve recognition in their own right. But beyond that, thanks to everyone who supported me directly. The season wasn’t always the easiest so guys helped us through the tough times and the win is a little bit yours as much as it is ours, so enjoy that.
We’d like to thank 5fire for sitting down us for this interview.